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      • 2020 MKV Supra lap test around the Hockenheim GP - Equal to 718 Boxster

        Published on 07-26-2019 05:24 PM
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        You will have to decide on your own whether you consider this 1:58.80 lap time around the Hockenheim GP for the new 2020 Toyota impressive or not. It does match the Porsche 718 Boxster although the Boxster has a much less powerful 2.0 four-cylinder.


        The Boxster is lighter and mid-engine though although power pays dividends on the Hockenheim GP course which shows with the Lamborghini Urus beating it. The 718 GTS is also quicker as is the BMW F87 M2 Competition.

        Overall, it is decent performance but nothing special in today's performance climate especially considering the Supra was on Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires.

        69. Porsche 911 Carrera S Cabrio Uwe Sener 1:55.00 450 / 1658
        70. Honda NSX (Mk II) unknown 1:55.30 581 / 1766
        71. Corvette Grand Sport Uwe Sener 1:55.30 466 / 1583
        72. Mercedes-Benz AMG GT S Uwe Sener 1:55.40 522 / 1617
        73. BMW M5 Competition (F90) Uwe Sener 1:55.60 626 / 1896
        74. KTM X-Bow R Horst von Saurma 1:56.00 304 / 855
        75. Porsche 718 Cayman GTS Uwe Sener 1:56.00 365 / 1402
        76. Porsche 911 GT3 (997) unknown 1:56.41 415 / 1395
        77. BMW M850i (G15) Uwe Sener 1:56.60 530 / 1979
        78. Porsche 911 Carrera GTS unknown 1:56.90 430 / 1395
        79. Lamborghini Urus Uwe Sener 1:57.10 650 / 2277
        80. Porsche Cayman GT4 (981) unknown 1:57.40 385 / 1340
        81. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997) unknown 1:57.44 415 / 1375
        82. Porsche 718 Boxster GTS Uwe Sener 1:57.70 365 / 1404
        83. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) unknown 1:57.90 512 / 1437
        84. Aston Martin Vantage Uwe Sener 1:57.90 510 / 1693
        85. BMW M2 Competition Uwe Sener 1:57.90 410 / 1620
        86. Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG S Coupe Uwe Sener 1:58.20 510 / 1814
        87. Porsche 718 Boxster Uwe Sener 1:58.80 300 / 1379
        88. Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997) Felix Aretz 1:59.10 415 / 1375
        89. BMW Z4 M40i (G29) Uwe Sener 1:59.50 340 / 1578
        90. Ford Mustang Bullitt Uwe Sener 1:59.80 487 / 1748
        91. Chevrolet Camaro SS (Mk VI) Uwe Sener 1:59.90 453 / 1681
        92. Porsche Panamera GTS (Mk II) Uwe Sener 2:00.20 460 / 2117
        93. Audi R8 4.2 FSI Quattro (Mk I) unknown 2:00.65 420 / 1560


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          BLKROKT - 07-27-2019, 01:09 PM
          I’m not a fan of this car. With that said, it’s within a second of some fairly serious and much higher hp cars - M2 Comp, Z06, C63S Coupe, Vantage. And it’s faster than a 997 GT3 RS, which if you had told me before the test I would have said impossible. Hockenheim is a hp track. That’s not so bad.
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          Sticky - 07-27-2019, 01:11 PM
          Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BLKROKT Click here to enlarge
          I’m not a fan of this car. With that said, it’s within a second of some fairly serious and much higher hp cars - M2 Comp, Z06, C63S Coupe, Vantage. And it’s faster than a 997 GT3 RS, which if you had told me before the test I would have said impossible. Hockenheim is a hp track. That’s not so bad.
          You have to take the tires into account.

          Now way is this thing staying with a 997 GT3 RS.
        1. BLKROKT's Avatar
          BLKROKT - 07-27-2019, 05:24 PM
          Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
          You have to take the tires into account.

          Now way is this thing staying with a 997 GT3 RS.
          Super Sports aren’t some racing tire good for 5sec a lap over street tires. You can bet that the 997 GT3 RS was on something just as good if not better, even given the ~10yrs. Probably 1st-gen Cups. And the more recent C63S Coupe and M2 Comp laps were both done on Super Sports.

          I find it hard to believe too, but here we are.
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          Sticky - 07-28-2019, 11:12 AM
          Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BLKROKT Click here to enlarge
          Super Sports aren’t some racing tire good for 5sec a lap over street tires. You can bet that the 997 GT3 RS was on something just as good if not better, even given the ~10yrs. Probably 1st-gen Cups. And the more recent C63S Coupe and M2 Comp laps were both done on Super Sports.

          I find it hard to believe too, but here we are.
          The cars were tested on different days on different rubber maybe even different drivers.

          Seriously, no way this thing is hanging with a 997 GT3 RS.
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          BLKROKT - 08-08-2019, 11:51 PM
          https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/01/...-buttonwillow/

          New test at Buttonwillow. It shouldn’t be this fast, but it is.

          Mike Chang, co-founder of Evasive Motorsports, wrangled the brand spanking new Toyota sports car and Formula Drift champion Daijiro “Dai” Yoshihara, and brought them both to Buttonwillow Raceway in central California. With the drifter behind the wheel, the Supra clocked a 1:58.92 on the circuit’s clockwise 13 configuration, the variant most hallowed by time attack fans.

          For context, a sub 2-minute lap time at Buttonwillow is considered very quick for a production car. The National Auto Sport Association (NASA) track record at Buttonwillow for a Spec Miata stands at 2:05.02. According to Fastestlaps.com, a 997 Porsche 911 GT3 ran a 2:01.50 on the circuit and a 997 Porsche 911 GT2 put down a 1:59.70. For those who prefer the English section of the SATs, that would mean the 2020 Toyota Supra is a full two seconds-plus quicker than the former naturally aspirated model and nearly a second faster than the turbocharged one.